Round twenty one selections

Canterbury Bulldogs vs Brisbane Broncos – Thursday night – ANZ Stadium

The Bulldogs are still trying hard, and were rewarded for effort last start with a win over a disappointing Tigers outfit, but there's two reasons why they can't beat the Broncos on Thursday:

  1. The Bulldogs haven't beaten a top eight team all season unless you count the Panthers way back in round three  :-)
  2. With the Bulldogs winning last start, the Broncos won't take them lightly.

In round nine the Bulldogs nearly beat the Broncos (and were unlucky not to), but the Broncos have improved since then while the Dogs have been shedding players and treading water.

Verdict – Broncos by 8

Result – Bulldogs 36 defeated Broncos 22

Newcastle Knights vs Wests Tigers – Friday night – McDonald Jones Stadium

Both sides lost last start to lowly opponents and both sides were ordinary at best (and I'm being polite). The Knights are tough to beat at home but the Tigers still have the sniff of a top eight finish in their nostrils – that should be all the motivation they need. A repeat of their performance against the Dogs and the Tigers season is over, but they're better than that...I hope they're better than that. With apologies to all the Tigers fans on the site – if you're only going to miss one game this weekend make sure it's this one.

Verdict – Tigers by 4

Result – Tigers 25 defeated Knights 16

South Sydney Rabbitohs vs Melbourne Storm – Friday night – ANZ Stadium

First plays second and quite a few are talking up this contest in the lead-up...and why not? Here's my reason why not – the Bunnies record against the Storm is truly awful (4 wins from 28), and the last time these sides met was in the lead-up to the 2017 finals series. Back then the Storm won 64-6. We'll have nothing like that on Friday night, because the Bunnies are a serious football team this season, but the history of these sides tells a story and it's telling me to stick with the purple machine. It's a formula that's worked for a very long time.

Verdict – Storm by 8

Result – Rabbitohs 30 defeated Storm 20

St George Illawarra Dragons vs New Zealand Warriors – Saturday afternoon – WIN Stadium

I think this is the toughest game to pick all round. Both sides were convincingly outplayed last Sunday and both have their place in the finals (Dragons – top four and Warriors – top eight) to defend. It's fair to say the Dragons loss to the Roosters looks like stronger form than a loss to the Titans, but the Warriors (potentially) have some very important inclusions this weekend. Adam Blair will be back and Tohu Harris and Issac Luke are likely to be back. If all three return I'm leaning the Warriors way. The Warriors playmakers are a much more dangerous pair playing behind Issac Luke, and the Warriors did beat the Dragons earlier this season when few thought they could. I'm just leaning to the home team, who have a fair run into the finals and still look on track for a top four finish. The Rabbitohs/Storm contest will get plenty of headlines, but this game should create plenty of interest.

Verdict – Dragons by 2

Result – Warriors 18 defeated Dragons 12

Parramatta Eels vs Gold Coast Titans – Saturday night – ANZ Stadium

The Eels are pretty crap, but at least they're playing at home which is the only place they've won a game all year. Perhaps that's why they are favoured to win on Saturday. The Titans are almost always expected to lose, but in their last six games they've won four and scored 30 points or more every time (and two of those were against top eight teams). Their two losses were a narrow (and dodgy) loss to the Chooks and a game they had in the bag but let slip against the Knights. The Eels by comparison have scored more than 20 points just three times all year. They've only done it once since round 8...and they lost. Not for me.

Verdict – Titans by 4

Result – Eels 28 defeated Titans 12

Sydney Roosters vs North Queensland Cowboys – Saturday night – Allianz Stadium

Last week I put my comically over-sized head on the chopping block and suggested the competition was a two-horse race...and now look at the all experts jumping on the Thinker bandwagon and tipping the Storm and the Roosters for the 2018 grand final. Get in line gurus....the Thinker is in town. The Cowboys are in Sydney this weekend and I don't know if they want to be. They jagged a rare win at home last weekend which was a nice little lift for the local fans who have suffered this season, but if that game wasn't the lowest quality contest in round 20 it was sitting right next door to it. Meanwhile the Chooks put the Dragons to the sword. They're winning, they're on track and they're a serious football team. Since Roosters coach Trent Robinson took hold of the clipboard in 2013 his troops have finished the NRL season in the following positions – 2013 (1st), 2014 (1st), 2015 (1st), 2016 (15th), 2017 (2nd). There's only one Craig Bellamy, but he's no slouch.

Verdict – Roosters by 20

Result – Roosters 26 defeated Cowboys 20

Cronulla Sharks vs Manly Sea Eagles – Sunday afternoon – Southern Cross Group Stadium

The Sharks are in 6th and the Sea Eagles in 14th place, yet Manly have actually scored more points than Cronulla this year. That tells you a few things – Cronulla must be pretty good at winning tight games and when Manly lose they really really lose. Manly were pretty good for much of their game against the Panthers, and then they really really lost while the Thinker boiled an egg. Cronulla lost narrowly to the Broncos but that was a quality contest and they'll be winning this.

Verdict – Sharks by 14

Result – Sea Eagles 33 defeated Sharks 32

Penrith Panthers vs Canberra Raiders – Sunday afternoon – Panthers Stadium

If some challenging officialdom didn't kill the Raiders two weeks ago the Storm certainly did one week ago. A shame really, because when the Raiders are winning, the NRL is a much more entertaining competition. They could actually win this, because Penrith are a baffling riddle. If they start slowly this weekend Canberra are the sort of team that could score a point a minute, and you can't run down a 40 point deficit in the last seven minutes of play. Reagan Campbell-Gillard should be back this week and he's a massive inclusion for the home side. You can't tip the Panthers confidently, but I can't tip against them either.

Verdict – Panthers by 4

Result – Panthers 40 defeated Raiders 31

Wally Lewis - round twenty-one selections (in bold)

Note: tips from Wally will be published on Wednesday night or early Thursday morning.

  • Bulldogs vs BRONCOS
  • Knights vs TIGERS
  • Rabbitohs vs STORM
  • DRAGONS vs Warriors
  • EELS vs Titans
  • ROOSTERS vs Cowboys
  • SHARKS vs Sea Eagles
  • PANTHERS vs Raiders

Comments

bradapple's picture

Actually i will change my pick to the Thinker please Mark. His picks are getting better

bradapple's picture

Ill have the thinker please Mark

mark ashford's picture

Manyana and Bradapple, sorry guys Rocket and footy chick are taken (see above posts)
The 3 remaining choices are Steel Panther, Brad S and Kellys Loot
Let me know who you'd like.

NuL1F3's picture

G-day all, just been around to drop tips of late and not enjoy the banter this site usually offers up, today is no exception:
Bulldogs (throwing caution to the wind maybe?)
Knights (and again? I guess we will see!)
Storm
Dragons
Titans
Roosters (sorry Cowboys)
Sharks
Panthers
Best of luck to all! :)

manyana's picture

Here are my weekly guesses.
Broncos
Tigers
Storm (50/50 call)
Dragons (Can't bring myself to tip the Warriors, but not too keen on the way the Dragons have been playing, so I had to tip one of them)
Titans (Without much confidence)
Roosters (No confidence in the Cowboys))
Sharks (Eagles didn't play for 80 minutes last week)
Panthers (50/50 call)
Good luck to everyone, manyana.

tigerholic's picture

I think Mary S had Rocket in the correct gender:)

manyana's picture

Hi Mark, in that case can I have Steel Panther please? By 2 points.

mark ashford's picture

Update on the mini comp.
1. Rocket Ryan.....Rick
2. Tiger Girl ………..Scott M
3. Footy Chick...….Thinker & Mary S
4. "a" ……………..Newbie from Perth
5. The Thinker..."a"
6. Rick...….Christine
7. Steel Panther....available
8. Brad S....available
9. Dragons Fanboy...TigerHolic
10. Kellys Loot.....available
11. The Annoying Devil...BaggyG
Only 3 names left.
Manyana & Bradapple let me know which of the above 3 you would like.

manyana's picture

Hi Mark I'll have Steel Panther thanks. Cheers, Manyana.

Brad S's picture

G'day Mark,
If available, I'll take Kellys Loot.
Up the mighty Broncs tonight.
Thanks mate.

tigerholic's picture

Giddy Folks

With Coachy Boy away sulking somewhere, seeing as though Coach would normally provide us with stats, streaks, sarcasm and theories, what does everyone think of this stat.
'Coach has been away 3 out of 3 times in the one year cause he can't take what he gives, this is Coaches best streak as a member of this site.

If you are out there Coach reading with steam coming out of your coach ears, get your ass back on this site and offer us some classic Coach info.

Tiger

mark ashford's picture

Hi Manyana ...you're locked in.

mark ashford's picture

Hi Brad S Kellys Loot it is.
Broncs should go ok tonight.

mark ashford's picture

Bradapple, seeing as you took the trouble to reply I have given you your namesake Brad S.

manyana's picture

Thanks Mark. Go Steel Panther!!!☺☺

mark ashford's picture

Hi all
Mini comp is now closed with all 11 contenders accounted for.
I will put up the final list shortly.
$50 will be coming to one of you at completion of round 25.
Big thanks to all who showed interest.

manyana's picture

Mark, I think I forgot to give you a margin. By 2 thanks.

mark ashford's picture

Hi Manyana, no margin required just the winner.

mark ashford's picture

MINI COMP
This is how we stand prior to kick off round 21
1. Rocket Ryan.....Rick
2. Tiger Girl ………..Scott M
3. Footy Chick...….Thinker & Mary S
4. "a" ……………..Newbie from Perth
5. The Thinker..."a"
6. Rick...….Christine
7. Steel Panther....Manyana
8. Brad S....Bradapple
9. Dragons Fanboy...TigerHolic
10. Kellys Loot.....Brad S
11. The Annoying Devil...BaggyG

NOW over the next 4 rounds some may slip out of the top 11 and others enter. I will keep a close eye on it and make adjustments as required. So if Big Pete replaces TAD then Baggy will have Big Pete and so on.
A final list will be posted prior to kick off round 25.

mark ashford's picture

Thinker, I know you were first to nominate Footy Chick and I cheekily slipped Mary S in after her funny post about the Rocket.
I also know your feelings about getting prizes on the site.
So should "the chick" win how about you get the bragging rights and Mary S gets the prize.

christine 's picture

If I may say so last time someone spoke up to coach at the time & told him what they thought & from memory it was me then if i'm right besides the fact Penrith lost mary s also gave coach a piece of her mind so the theory is until mary s apologises to coach for what she said then coach won't resurface until said apology comes from mary s , mary s don't you dare apologize you did nothing wrong ...

manyana's picture

OK ta.

BigPeteBx's picture

Thanks Mark for putting the mini-comp up.
I was interested, but never made the grade.
Let others go before me mate. My season has been a bit topsy-turvey picking my boys on the wrong occasions. They've let me down and I feel there is more to their playing/winning/losing.

Cheers mate and good luck to ye all, with final rounds tipping.
I'm not done with yet!
Big Pete

mark ashford's picture

TigerHolic, your post was spot on. Coachy loves to give out heaps of sarcasm with his "you are 100% right etc" but he does liven up the site with his comments. Gets us all fired up and commenting.
Only reason I offered the Mini Comp was to increase traffic here.
I may upset some people but like you I would like Coach to raise his ugly head again and give us something to talk about.

Christine, your defence of Mary S is to be admired. Of course she has nothing to apologise to Coach about.
Coach is a well practiced "stirrer" and shouldn't be taken too seriously.

BigPeteBx's picture

Tiger - Coach had a very long World Cup series this time round. He's catching up on sleep. It would be nice to see his evaluations as Finals draw near.

Cheers mate and sympathy to Benji re his grandfather. I still like Benji, he has a lot to show for his years and was a real competitor.
Big Pete

mark ashford's picture

Big Pete, hope your not freezing out there in the Bathurst country.
Been cold enough here early morning in SEQ
We haven't heard much about your eyes lately mate? any good news?
Your Manly had the Panthers last Saturday how did it go so wrong?
I've tipped the Sharks to beat Manly, don't like the Sharks so hope you prove me wrong.

Mary S's picture

Hi Mark & Tiger
Have you stopped chuckling yet over my gaff!!
It's alright, I still have a chuckle myself, at the fact that I did not complete my intended sentence!!
Thanks for the extra comp Mark - really good of you.

@ Christine & Mark,
I have no intention, whatsoever, of apologising to Coach for any of my previous comments as I have no need to.

If he wants to come back, he will. Might depend, do you think, on how Panthers fair in the next few weeks!!!
Cheers to all
Mary

BigPeteBx's picture

Thanks Mark - has been rather icy here. Fresh may we call it. Billiard table stuff.
Still seeing surgeon with post op stuff, to now make sure I have no swelling behind the eye, due to some hazy/glazy vision I get.
I need to watch night time computer work, as I sit with a bright light over me. Half the reason I try to get emails answered before I start nodding off. Needless to say I usually don't get onto computer until around 5.30pm or after, then have tea, do errands, then back again and close off.
That is why on a Thursday night, I am one of the last guys tipping here.

I don't need to prove you wrong this week, as I also tipped Cronulla, but my heart is with Manly. Being at Shark Park is another no-no for us, as Sharks have a very loud supporter base and Manly will need to block that out of their minds. As for last week Mark, it was a case of Status Quo - roll over, lay down and let me in (hummin mate) and over strolled Nat for the winner. Pure crap they laid on us there. Lead like the Melbourne Cup sprinter and fade away to nothing.
Thank heavens Coach wasn't about, as he would have sure let me have his threepence worth, although he had mellowed a bit, until others stir him up like mashed potatoes.

Cheers mate and keep well - Big Pete in Bx Country.

mark ashford's picture

Mary S
No I haven't stopped chuckling yet and won't for some time.
Rocket has been quiet about your gaff but hopefully should see the funny side. He's a little like Coach serious about his tips and why not he's on top.

christine 's picture

Mary s
I didn't want you to say sorry to coach , I was actually going to praise you for doing so at the time it was well done & exceptionally worded good for you ...

mark ashford's picture

Big Pete
Obviously still some problems to go mate. Like me there are plenty on here that wish you well. Recovery can sometimes be as bad as the original problem.
Status Quo rolling over will be in my head for at least a week or so thanks very much.

bradapple's picture

Cheers mark

Baggy_Gee's picture

What happened tonight, I forgot it was the start of the round till 5 minutes ago and then.......... What happened. Dogs just have a blinder or did the Broncos underestimate their opponents?

Mary S's picture

I had the feeling that Broncos underestimated the opposition tonight Baggy. Bulldogs seemed to run all over them!!

Tuisova's picture

the broncos are the most jekyl and hyde team one week they look like contenders the other one they look like straight garbage

The Thinker's picture

@Mark

Thanks again for organising this....Once you have your ten contestants finalised I will create a new page for your comp in The Lounge.

And I'll pull myself out of contention, so Mary S gets Footy Chick

All the best

newbie from perth's picture

How about those Doggies eh? Watched ‘em last night and was blown away. They just came out and grabbed that game by the scruff of the neck and woosh! No idea where the Broncos’ heads were at but all credit to the Doggies. Where was this form hiding all year? Maybe they should leave Klemmer out more often (ha-ha). And isn’t that young Lewis a potential star? Doggies definitely need to hang on to him for sure.

OK, it’s 7am here (I’m at work) and I’m absolutely starvin’ so I’m off to microwave me a spicy chicken strip, a samosa and a sausage roll as usual for my “Fat Friday” breakfast. Cheers…

christine 's picture

Nul1F3
Congratulations on tipping bulldogs this week your the only person that did , how no one else noticed except for myself I don't know but well done on your part ...

Baggy_Gee's picture

Just watched the replay, have to say that the Bulldogs, while being the better team for 75 minutes are very lucky that the game didn't have any more time in it. The Broncos looked like they had woken up and were coming for the win. But it does show how close the competition is when a team on equal 2nd last can get up for a good win over a top (formerly) 4 side.

mark ashford's picture

Newbie that breakfast will give you indigestion until...well I guess next Friday when you have it again.
Baggy G I think the Broncs thought it would be an easy win but came up against a determined Dogs team and paid the price. By the time they woke up it was all too late. Not taking anything away from the Doggies they played probably their best game this year.

mark ashford's picture

Thinker, once again you have proved yourself a true gentleman.
If Footy Chick wins you can claim "bragging rights"
No need to create a page in the lounge I'm just going to update here at home as the top 11 changes and publish a final prior to kick off #25.

Tuisova's picture

Storm is complety lost and out of gas they're getting bullied by rabbitohs bigs, quite schoking

Mary S's picture

Did we just see the finals played early tonight?
Exciting game to watch and boy, Cook can certainly put on the speed. The bunnies just played even better in the last half.

Result didn't do our tipping much good, although Dugscott, Pabdul, Taka and TAD were successful in their pick for tonight's result. Congratulations!

mark ashford's picture

Gee I'm having a great round so far 0 out of 4.
Thinker if I get a perfect round of zeros do I get a bonus point.

manyana's picture

I'm not doing much better, I have 1 & Titans aren't looking too good either. ????????

Baggy_Gee's picture

Give the BOYS a chance to implode. Might be tied for the spoon with manly and Cowboys.

mark ashford's picture

Baggy, no implode from your boys, a nice win. Do you have a nice warm feeling as the spoon becomes more elusive.

Baggy_Gee's picture

I'll only feel warm and fuzzy after round 25 and Manly, Bulldogs or Cowboys are holding the spoon, till then it's that tight knot in the guys you have when the BOYS are holding a one point lead and under the pump. Round 24 is a must win game for us if we don't want that spoon.

chester's picture

great song newbie

chester's picture

great song newbie

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